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Agent notifying been inactive when it is not

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    Icarus67
    wrote on last edited by
    #11

    OK, but I think something is not working as intended, for example, this are the Internet down times for early today:
    2025-11-09 05:21:27 - Down (201.154.156.173) for 28s (Provider)
    2025-11-09 05:21:06 - Down (201.154.156.173) for 11s (Provider)
    2025-11-09 04:54:50 - Down (201.154.156.173) for 19s (Provider)
    2025-11-09 04:47:27 - Down (201.154.156.173) for 11s (Provider)
    2025-11-09 04:47:14 - Down (201.154.156.173) for 11s (Provider)
    2025-11-09 04:31:15 - Down (201.154.156.173) for 16s (Provider)
    2025-11-09 04:00:58 - Down (201.154.156.173) for 27s (Provider)

    The first one was at 4:00:58 in the morning for 27 seconds
    And I received this email at 4:01:21:

    "Agent ID 131365 in time zone America/Mexico_City, installed at , Komchen running software version 1.85.2504.
    This agent has become inactive, no longer communicating since 2025-11-09 04:01:21. This could be indicative of an outage or that the agent has been disabled or disconnected. If there is an outage in progress, details will be shown in your dashboard once the agent is able to send its report.
    Notice, Cable Internet users
    Cable provider based Internet services have an additional layer of potential problems as these services are provided using both signal levels and TCP/IP routing. This presents a problem in that ISP Tracker monitoring does not at this time monitor cable plant signal levels.
    This is the LAST notification to avoid spam-like behaviors.
    If you want to keep receiving email, please reset your Agent Notifications from the agent dashboard."

    And it says it is the last? When there was only one incident? And the email gets toggled off...
    This is not behaving as intended..

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      SBK
      wrote on last edited by SBK
      #12

      Maybe I need to explain a bit more the general behavior of all this, so sorry for the long answer...

      OUTAGES
      You are going to receive the outage notification ONLY when the agent is back online, since the agent will send the report of how much the outage lasted and on which network (yours, provider, beyond), only AFTER it is online again.
      INACTIVE
      This is the reason why we also provide the "inactive notifications" since they are generated from our network when we see that the agent is no more communicating with our servers i.e. you will know that something is wrong long before the agent will be back online.
      SMS
      Please take note that we also added the SMS support in the "Available packages" in case you want to receive an SMS instead of an email.
      ANTI SPAM POLICY
      We have decided to send no more than 3 emails before the customer is informed to enable notifications again and this is because some sites have a quite restrictive policy about "possible spamming" and we definitely don't want to be identified as that, since we are giving you a service.
      This means that you will receive a total of 3 emails and not up to 3 emails for each type of notification.

      Now let me analyze what you shared to see if there is something that is not behaving as intended.
      

      YESTERDAY'S OUTAGES
      These are the recorded outages (you can see them all in the historical/outages option):
      2025-11-09 04:00:58 With your Internet provide
      2025-11-09 04:31:15 With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 04:47:14 With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 04:47:27 With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 04:54:50 With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 05:21:06 With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 05:21:27 With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 20:38:10 With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 20:44:01 With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 20:44:23 With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 21:02:20 On your local network
      2025-11-09 21:10:54 With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 21:28:54 With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 21:29:18 With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 21:36:27 With your Internet provider

      EMAILS YOU RECEIVED
      These are the emails you received:
      2025-11-09 04:01:36 This is the LAST Inactive Notification
      2025-11-09 20:04:14 Inactive Notification
      2025-11-09 20:38:13 Inactive Notification
      2025-11-09 20:38:16 This is the LAST Outage Notification

      CHANGES TO THE NOTIFICATIONS
      And last but not least, these are the times where you were accessing the notifications:
      2025-11-09 11:41:37
      2025-11-09 14:18:35
      2025-11-09 14:18:39
      2025-11-09 14:18:42

      CHRONOLOGICALLY SORTED
      2025-11-09 04:00:58 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider
      2025-11-09 04:01:36 = 3rd EMAIL - This is the LAST Inactive Notification
      2025-11-09 04:31:15 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 04:47:14 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 04:47:27 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 04:54:50 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 05:21:06 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 05:21:27 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 11:41:37 = accessing notifications (probably enabling again)
      2025-11-09 14:18:35 = accessing notifications (probably enabling again)
      2025-11-09 14:18:39 = accessing notifications (probably enabling again)
      2025-11-09 14:18:42 = accessing notifications (probably enabling again)
      2025-11-09 20:04:14 = 1st EMAIL - Inactive Notification
      2025-11-09 20:38:10 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 20:38:13 = 2nd EMAIL - Inactive Notification
      2025-11-09 20:38:16 = 3rd EMAIL - This is the LAST Outage Notification
      2025-11-09 20:44:01 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 20:44:23 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 21:02:20 = OUTAGE - On your local network = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 21:10:54 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 21:28:54 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 21:29:18 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent
      2025-11-09 21:36:27 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider = no email was sent

      CONCLUSION
      You are receiving a max of 3 emails no matter to which notification it is associated (Inactive, Disconnected, Back online, Outages, Low bandwidth, Sensor, Host monitoring) and then have to enable it again.
      Until you enable it, events are recorded but the associated email is not sent.
      I decided to change the text of the last email to avoid the misunderstanding that it was "the last email of that kind".

      Ed (K.)
      Development Team

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        Icarus67
        wrote on last edited by
        #13

        Thanks but there is a problem with your chronology, the outages reported on the dashboard does not match in some cases, my comments between the chronolgy:
        Per Dashboard
        2025-11-09 04:00:58 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider
        2025-11-09 04:01:36 = 3rd EMAIL - This is the LAST Inactive Notification (which ones are the other 2? I do not see any on the 9th, on the 8th was internal, and then on the 7th?
        Per Dashboard:
        2025-11-09 20:44:23 - Down (201.154.156.173) for 10s (Provider)
        2025-11-09 20:44:01 - Down (201.154.156.173) for 12s (Provider)
        2025-11-09 20:38:10 - Down (201.154.156.173) for 5s (Provider)
        There was no outage at 20:04:14? why I got an email?

        No I am only selecting to be notify by email when thera are:
        Outages
        Low bandwidth

        So it should only stop sending emails after 3 of the above happen on the same day no?

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          SBK
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          This is the outage as it was recorded
          2025-11-09 04:00:58 = OUTAGE - With your Internet provider
          and this is the email that happens AFTER the agent is back online
          2025-11-09 04:01:36 = 3rd EMAIL - This is the LAST Inactive Notification

          And again the number of emails is referred to whichever combination of events that have to be notified.

          And last you did change the notifications to have only OUtages and low bandwidth but before they were including also inactive

          Is it clear now ?

          Ed (K.)
          Development Team

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            SBK
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            To make another example based on the last change you made, if you have two events declaring a low bandwidth and one outage that is a total of 3 emails and until you enable it again no other email will be sent.

            If between the time you were informed about the last email and the moment you enable it again a lot of other events are happening like inactives, outages, low bandwidth etc you will never be notified via email since the notification is off.

            One thing is that the app is recording the different events and another thing is within the time frame the email notification is on you will receive the first 3 events that need to be notified depending on what you selected.

            Ed (K.)
            Development Team

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              ISPtracker_Support
              wrote on last edited by
              #16

              The point of the notifications is to let members know about problems, it's not about sending them endless notices about the same or similar problems.

              The point is that the notifications, no matter how sent, how many etc, are to let you know there is something wrong with your Internet connection, either at home or with the provider.

              Hope this helps.

              Regards,
              ISP Tracker Support

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              We count on satisfied members spreading the word.

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                Icarus67
                wrote on last edited by
                #17

                I understand but the count of 3 is restarted every day or is cumulative?

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                • SBKS Offline
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                  SBK
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  As soon as you receive the 3rd email the system disables the notifications and you are "obliged" to login, go to the notification tab of the dashboard and enable it again.

                  Ed (K.)
                  Development Team

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                    ISPtracker_Support
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    And to remind why the logic is this way, it's because if the service blasts emails to many users on the same mail service, there is as good chance our mail services get blocked and then no one receives their notifications.

                    However, when using SMS (texting), we have no such limitations at this time.

                    Regards,
                    ISP Tracker Support

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                      ISPtracker_Support
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      Can this question be closed now? We have implemented SMS for everyone as a solution.

                      Regards,
                      ISP Tracker Support

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                        Icarus67
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                        #21

                        Yes, it can be closed, thanks

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